This is part of a series of interviews with Rick Smith of WRALTechwire ( in June 2018 about recent major changes to laws governing cryptocurrency.

Jim Verdonik founder of Innovate Capital Law

Jim blogs at

Whitney Christensen is a government relations lawyer who works with state legislators and administrative agencies.

RICK: I asked Jim and Whitney to share their views about many recent exciting changes in the cryptocurrency world.

RICK: Whitney, I understand you had a victory at the state legislature last week.

WHITNEY: Yes, on behalf of a client we were able to pass legislation to amend the North Carolina Money Transmitters Act to resolve a section of the Act related to permissible investments of virtual currency exchanges.

RICK: Why did the law need to be changed?

WHITNEY: The original sponsors of the Act and stakeholders who worked on it in 2015 did not anticipate the exponential increase in the value of Coins. Because of this growth, the original permissible investment requirement is essentially impossible to comply with today. We feel very fortunate that the legislation made it through this year, because there was a time sensitive need to fix this for the virtual currency industry in the state.

JIM: Let me say that Whitney is being modest here. If the law had not been changed this year, all of the Coin Exchanges would have had to close down the Coin accounts of all their North Carolina clients and there would be no way to buy or sell virtual currency in the state.

RICK: Would that have affected a lot of people?

WHITNEY: Well Rick, in doing research to educate our legislators I learned that well more than 100,000 North Carolina residents have Coin accounts and that these accounts hold hundreds of millions of dollars of Coins.  So, yes, this would have impacted the investments and coin usage of a big segment of the state’s population.

RICK: Those are surprisingly big numbers for North Carolina.

JIM: That’s why we’re sitting with you today Rick. Some people still think Coins are something just for people in Asia or California or South America. In reality, Coins are entering Main Street America. Everyone from Millennials to Baby Boomers are adding them to their investment portfolios and people are now using them for everyday purchases at places like Subway, KFC, Reeds Jewelers, Whole Foods and Microsoft. Some Coin exchanges have more account holders than major securities brokerage firms like Charles Schwab.

RICK: So, Whitney, how did you explain all this to our state legislators?

WHITNEY: We knew going into this year’s legislative session that it would be one of the shortest in modern history. So, we made our messaging succinct and perfectly teed up our proposed legislation before the session even began. We didn’t leave anything to chance, because it had to pass this year.

RICK: Government acting quickly? That’s unusual. How did that happen?

WHITNEY: Fortunately, Rep. Stephen Ross agreed to help us with the bill, which was huge because he sponsored the original Money Transmitters Act and is very well respected on these issues. With Rep. Ross’s help and the help of a handful of other key House and Senate members we explained to the rest of the Legislature that without this fix, the state’s virtual currency presence would dry up and NC would be branded as a state evolving in the opposite direction of technology.

RICK: How are other states dealing with this?

WHITNEY: We also told legislators that we would be one of only two states in the nation (Hawaii is the other) without access to virtual currency exchanges if we ended up inadvertently regulating them out of North Carolina.

RICK: Did that concern the legislators?

WHITNEY: State lawmakers genuinely want to do the best for the people they represent and I don’t think you need to fully understand the intricacies of our virtual currency regulations to realize that we needed to fix this for the people of the state.

JIM: Let me add that Whitney is the master of the two P’s – patience and persistence. Sometimes it takes a lot of effort getting the legislators to know what’s right. I understand Whitney was essentially camped out at the Legislature for a week straight before the bill ultimately passed.

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